My Paralegal friend says he can stamp them. It will help get the affidavit through easer.

Does this apply to bikes purchased in the U.S. that have no "title" and brought back to Canada?  

And, can one get a bike over the border if it doesn't have a title or ownership documents?

Went through this with my Triumph with no ownership and not in MOT puters. Took it to a dealer, St Onge in Barrie. They took the vin put it on their letterhead. Too that to the MOT with the bill of sale. Did the swear thing and walked out with a ownership. But it depends what MOT office you go to. Our local one is useless for anything but basic stuff. I go to the one in Midland after asking the guys where to go. So ask your local guys what' the best one to use.

Hi all, I have just spent two days at the Sarnia Service Ontario, spent $282 on an affidavit as the seller included an ownership that had not been updated to show that the 1975 motor (which serial number had been used for the VIN) had been replaced with a 1972 motor for some reason.  The girl at the counter said "We don't accept affidavits" and she never even looked at it.

She called their head office and I was told to get the local CVMG's secretary to write up a reason for the VIN number on the US title not matching any number on the motorcycle. But as I am the secretary which I told her I was told I couldn't do that (conflict of interest) so I need my local president to do this, no problem except they want this on a CVMG letterhead which I cannot find. Does anyone have a letterhead for the CVMG? if so could you email to bruff1@sympatico.ca

Grant Temple

Grant wrote:

Hi all, I have just spent two days at the Sarnia Service Ontario, spent $282 on an affidavit as the seller included an ownership that had not been updated to show that the 1975 motor (which serial number had been used for the VIN) had been replaced with a 1972 motor for some reason.  The girl at the counter said "We don't accept affidavits" and she never even looked at it.

She called their head office and I was told to get the local CVMG's secretary to write up a reason for the VIN number on the US title not matching any number on the motorcycle. But as I am the secretary which I told her I was told I couldn't do that (conflict of interest) so I need my local president to do this, no problem except they want this on a CVMG letterhead which I cannot find. Does anyone have a letterhead for the CVMG? if so could you email to bruff1@sympatico.ca

Grant Temple

1> Go to another SERVICE ONTARIO ...You may even find one with a NOTARY on site ...Then you're affidavit will cost you nothing ....

2>  The affidavit is still accepted in Toronto &  many other areas ....It is a legal document , which is stronger than any SERVICE ONTARIO document ...

3> The affidavit should say    ::::  

  - I bought this bike from   [ name  & address  ] ....Bearing VIN [ the actual  numbers on the frame or  motor  ] ...

- The full price  paid  was $$$..

> Previous paperwork for this bike is missing/lost ...

- I did a search for previous owner &  at  SERVICE ONTARIO  ...NO history was found ...

- I am now the legal & rightful owner of this bike ... 

***  That's  it > NO MORE INFO > you will only confuse the matter ...

***Now go find another SERVICE ONTARIO office ..Do NOT go back to the same one because they are stuck in the old mindset ...Whereas another office knows nothing about your situation   !!!

**** The TITLE you showed , in reality did not apply to the bike [ it is obviously for another bike , which may still be out there somewhere ]  & should never have been shown ....You only needed a RECEIPT   from the seller with the correct numbers on it ...You should have followed the example at the beginning  of this blog & kept it simple ...You over did it & created your own problems & expenses ....

*** Your experience , when read by a novice , may scare them out of trying to get an OWNERSHIP / TITLE ....

*** HOPEFULLY  , NOVICES & OTHERS  read this   !!! 

****  KEEP IT  SIMPLE  *** 

In this process > LESS IS MORE ....