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  • 08 Jul 2019 6:11 PM
    Message # 7769561

    The truth seems to be a fleeting commodity , even here. Sad.

    Moved from Sell (Items for Sale): 10 Jul 2019 10:08 AM
  • 09 Jul 2019 1:57 PM
    Reply # 7770943 on 7769561

    You are absolutely correct. An interesting story in the news about a paedophile Epstein, who set up a blackmail scam for the scum of the earth people. Seems they had alot of sex with young girls. So I wondered how many of them got pregnant? It would seem none did. So how would that be possible? Or do they just eat their own.

    Saturn Devouring his Son is a history painting that illustrates the myth of the Roman god Saturn, who, haunted by a prophecy that he would be overthrown by one of his sons, ate each of them moments after they were born. (In the end, his wife hid his sixth son, Jupiter, who duly overthrew Saturn just as the prophecy had predicted.) Although allegedly inspired by the more conventional "Saturn Devouring His Son" (1636, Prado, Madrid) by Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640), the cannibalistic ferocity with which Saturn is eating his child makes it horrifyingly unique.

    In fact, the picture is a virtuoso rendering of a frenzied psychopath, caught in the darkness, who is unable to control his homicidal behaviour. Saturn's rough nakedness, dishevelled hair and beard, wide-eyed stare, and aggressive movements all indicate a state of hysterical madness. He has already torn off and eaten his child's head, the right arm and part of the left arm, and is about to take another bite from the left arm. He is gripping the dead child so tightly that his knuckles are white and blood oozes from the top of his hands. Furthermore, there is also evidence that in the original image - prior to being transferred to canvas - the god had a partially erect phallus, thus imbuing the work with even deeper horror.

    As usual, some issues remain unclear. To begin with, the rounded buttocks and thighs of the half-eaten victim in Saturn's hands are not those of a boy or man. It is clear therefore that he is eating one of his daughters. And she is no child but a well-developed young woman. So what does it all mean? Is it really an allegorical picture and, if so, who does Saturn represent? Some art experts believe that he may symbolize the autocratic Spanish state, devouring its own citizens; others interpret Saturn as the French Revolution, or even Napoleon. Goya himself left no clue as to the answer. In 1823, together with his young housekeeper, he moved to Bordeaux in France, where he died five years later.

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  • 09 Jul 2019 4:42 PM
    Reply # 7771243 on 7769561

    GLAD YOU  CLEARED  THAT  UP  ???????!!!!!

  • 10 Jul 2019 12:18 AM
    Reply # 7772881 on 7769561

    Hey George, how are you doing? Anything else you would like clarification on? Here is another one you may take interest in. Where I live we get alot of ticks, not only do they attach to you and suck blood, but they also inflick disease to make you weaker so its easier for them  to suck blood. Eveventually they make their host so weak that they get all the blood and the host dies. That's what usually kills moose in the wild. But, consider this little tid bit....

    Parasites are everywhere in the natural world, and many natural phenomena have counterparts in human society.

    Could there be such a thing as a human parasite? That is, a whole of people who benefit from the work of others, but do nothing themselves to contribute, and who harm others by existing.

    Let's think through what hypothetical human parasites would do and ask if they could exist, just from first principles.

    If there were such a thing as human parasites, their first priority would be to continue existing as parasites. They would want to stop others understanding they were parasites.

    So in a modern society they would want to control the media and the other pillars of democracy - law, education, politics.

    They would want to make it illegal to say that they were parasites. They would make sure it was the biggest taboo possible, actually.

    They would create or invite other groups of parasites to weaken the host society further and prevent it from responding. They would make sure it was illegal to criticize those parasites, too.

    They would make the whole concept of being a useless, noncontributing parasite into a sacred, untouchable value, just to make extra sure they were safe.

    Of course, eventually, their weakened host society would fail to thrive because it was so drained of resources. It would eventually die. That is a risk that parasites always take.

    So to find out whether parasites really exist, all we have to ask is: is there any group of people that own the media and are illegal to criticize?

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  • 10 Jul 2019 9:37 AM
    Reply # 7773297 on 7769561

    BUT  , how does  that  shed  any  light  on  Tony's  original  topic  " TRUTH in this FORUM "  /

  • 10 Jul 2019 10:20 AM
    Reply # 7773380 on 7769561
    Mark (Administrator)

    I moved this thread from the items for sale forum on July 10 as it is a discussion and not an advert.  

    The participants should consider whether they wish to continue this discussion in the current direction as there appears to be no link to motorcycles.

  • 10 Jul 2019 6:15 PM
    Reply # 7774401 on 7769561

    George you know EXACTLY what I am talking about. 

  • 10 Jul 2019 9:55 PM
    Reply # 7774589 on 7769561

    SORRY  > I  don't  ........CLUE  ME  IN  ?????????

  • 10 Jul 2019 10:23 PM
    Reply # 7774622 on 7769561

    Do you want me to tell the story about the wheels ?

  • 10 Jul 2019 11:46 PM
    Reply # 7774677 on 7774622
    Tony wrote:

    Do you want me to tell the story about the wheels ?

    You  may  as well  ....I've  been  involved  in  many  deals  >  I  certainly  don't  remember them  all  or  you  ?????????? So  go  ahead  ....But it  may  relate  to my  latest post  in members  only  blog > you may  want to  check it  out ? 
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